The John and Ed show (updated)

December 9 2003

A pretty decent-sized group of Chicago area IBM/Lotus customers assembled today to see the John and Ed show, AKA a Lotus update including Notes/Domino 6.5.  Mr. Head somehow even convinced me to put a jacket and tie on for the second day in a row -- I can't remember the last time I did that here in the US.  There were some familiar faces in the audience -- for me, some going back 12+ years, and for John, some of his happy customers.
The answer to the quickly becoming de rigeur "How many are confused?" question at the outset of our presentation was "fewer than expected."  If you have been following the discussion here, and at notestips, and on my lotus.com/weblog over the last few days, you know that I know that Lotus have a ways to go yet until the whole world understands Lotus Workplace.  That's fine -- I mean, after all, it's taken Microsoft years to get the word out about .NET, right?  (OK, OK, that was a cheap shot :)
Update -- Our presentations are here and here.
Related -- I'm sure you've heard about the total free-for-all going on at Slashdot.org about Lotus's strategy and specifically the remail project, right?  Can't have a Notes-related discussion on slashdot without it being called "slowtus goats" or "slowtus boats" or some such o-so-clever pun.  Go ahead, laugh at the trolls!
It's going to be a long night yet around here -- I am putting the finishing touches on tomorrow's e-Pro webcast.  Sure I'll see some of you then!

Ed Brill | Highland Park, IL USA Category:  Lotus  Add/View Comments [11]

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  1. 1  Mike Brown  | 12/10/2003 9:02:01 AM

    Very funny, I'm sure.

    At least he admits that most of the UI problems have gone in version 6. But even here he contradicts himself, probably unknowlingly.

    His last remaing gripe against 6 is that "gasp" some of the properties dialogs don't have OK and Cancel buttons on them. Now, his comic strip praises Apple's UI design, and rightly so, IMHO. But guess what? Apple don't go in much for OK and Cancel buttons either! You can check in Mac OS 8, 9 or X (ten) and you won't find either button in any of the OS's properties dialogs.

    Cheers,

    - Mike

  1. 2  Ben Poole http://www.benpoole.com | 12/10/2003 9:50:43 AM

    Slashdot? Pah. Oooh, this should wrap nicely ;-)

    http://www.notestips.com/80256B3A007F2692/1/TAIO-5U3H6W#387316C1D2DEB94380256DF800557E3D

  1. 3  Oliver Regelmann  | 12/10/2003 1:37:38 PM

    Huh, did I really see a SCO logo on the last page of the 6.5 presentation? ;-)

  1. 4  Ed Brill www.edbrill.com | 12/10/2003 1:55:14 PM

    these slides were created a few months ago, in happier times ;)

  1. 5  Bob Brodsky  | 12/10/2003 2:52:55 PM

    Ed,

    Nice to see that ND7 is on schedule for YE'04 launch!

    Bob

  1. 6  Jorick Astrego  | 12/12/2003 5:22:49 AM

  1. 7  Justin Freeman http://walnut.netmonkey.biz | 12/9/2003 9:27:40 PM

    That's what my old Company Director used to refer to it. eg. "Bloody load of goats has crashed again".

    Mind you, he was a staunch advocate of the product.

  1. 8  Neil  | 12/10/2003 3:08:42 AM

    The one I have heard most is LotusScrotes....

  1. 9  Steve Castledine www.projectdx.org | 12/10/2003 6:38:25 AM

    How IBM/Lotus have to detail everything to the nth degree before convincing/informing people - but Microsoft can get away with 'maybeware', 'vaguelyware' and 'changymindyifwegetitwrongyware' without much of a fuss.

    Maybe IBM types are more intelligent - MS types - dumb sheep?

  1. 10  Steve Castledine www.projectdx.org | 12/10/2003 6:40:51 AM

  1. 11  Jens Bruntt  | 12/10/2003 7:57:33 AM

    I just found this comic comment on three major players in the UI field

    http://www.ok-cancel.com/archives/week_2003_11_28.html - it's not entirely fair, but fun it is.