Ed Brill

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1. 1  Tripp Black http://www.mindwatering.com | 10/12/2009 1:15:28 PM

   Very sweet!

   Thanks Ed.

   (BTW, the plain english download names for 8.5.1 are very nice, too!)

1. 2  Lionel Conforto  | 10/12/2009 2:38:11 PM

   Hi Ed, that's such a good news. And a wise one for IBM ! Starting with release 8, something new happened: for the first time since a long time, it was impossible to find a printed book or one of these excellent Redbooks. It was impossible to refresh one's skills about our favourite tool. Making the designer free gives us the possibility to dive into the next release while still working on releass 6 or 7. Thanks again, and congratulations, it's a brilliant move.

1. 3  Ellery McKenzie  | 10/12/2009 3:07:56 PM

   Hey Ed, @Lionel raises an interesting point - do you know of any Redbooks on the horizon for the cool new features like xpages?

1. 4  Ed Brill http://www.edbrill.com | 10/12/2009 3:09:12 PM
   
   

   @3. There are, though they aren't physical books anymore. In fact, there is a residency open now for building XPages apps!

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1. 5  David  | 10/12/2009 3:38:32 PM

   I have seen some blog entries that mentioned relational database support for Xpages being in 8.5.1 when it ships and other entries said hopefully in 8.5.2. Do you have any updates?

1. 6  Sireesh Kumar  | 10/12/2009 11:12:10 PM

   Hi Ed,

   This is good news and a move in right direction. However it would be nice if you would release a Home edition (with the same restrictions as for the Designer client - not for production use and must pay for license when hosting an application) of the Domino server so that people interested in learning could play around.

   This is also useful for people trying out worklfow applications where there is a need to create users and switch ids to test the workflow. The same applies for web applications too. Hope IBM will consider this.

   Best Regards,

   Sireesh Kumar

1. 7  Andy Steven http://www.uptime100.com.au | 10/14/2009 12:18:11 AM

   went to the tutorials listed for composite apps on the link, and the getting started ones are for Notes 8 beta and 8.51 doesn't have the options shown in here.. makes it hard to learn

1. 8  Steve Pridemore  | 10/14/2009 10:47:47 AM

   @6. I was about to say the exact same thing.

   Lotus Notes Home Edition would have to use wizards setup and maintain accounts for pop, imap and smpt. I think the average user would have a hard time dealing with account documents in the pnab. They would also have to find a way to run local mail rules for pop and imap. It should be a full client. The user should be able to run any Notes Client app locally just no access to a Domino server with out a CAL. Maybe you could extend Lotus Live to include Domino test servers so users can test apps on a domino server. I think putting the Client in the hands of the user is way more important than putting the Designer out there, but designer is a good start.

1. 9  Sireesh Kumar  | 10/15/2009 1:24:12 AM

   @I agree that releasing designer free is great step. I started using it to learn xpages based on Declans tutorial and got stuck with the login part as I will always get anonymous user (unless I run it in the Notes Client) and cannot create new users as this would require a Domino server.

   There would also be admins who would like to learn the technology and they would require a domino server to play with. That was the reason I have requested for Home version of the domino server. As of now even the trial version of the Domino server 8.5.1 is not available on the site(or at least I am not able to find it).

1. 10  Nazeer Aval   | 10/16/2009 7:26:34 AM

   great strategy to penetrate Notes into devlepers world