My assumption is that most of you will see that headline and assume this is an April Fool's joke. The good news is it is not. Thanks to a connection in IBM Partnerworld, I've been shown the way to fix some of the biggest challenges expressed by Lotus brand customers with the IBM download site.
First up on the list is the filenames of the download packages. We're going to move away from using the IBM part number as the filename and use a longer, self-documenting string that also includes a description of what the downloaded software actually is. So, for example, the download for Lotus Notes 8.5 today is this:
and would become
ibm_lotus_notes85_win_eng_C1SP4EN.exe
It would still be searchable by part number but now have the advantage of the downloader knowing exactly which file is which in their download directory. We will also seek to unify some of those keyword fields e.g. platform and language.
This is just one of several areas of improvement that are being looked at -- many of them driven by the PartnerWorld team. I will be giving out a bunch of IBM Thanks! awards internally when we get some of these changes implemented. We're getting there...
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Carl Tyler http:\\www.iminstant.com | 4/1/2009 1:18:41 PM
Congrats! There are many of us that thought it could never be done. I now believe flying pigs may exist!
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Andrew Pollack http://www.thenorth.com | 4/1/2009 1:19:35 PM
You won't fool me releasing this on April 1st.
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Richard Schwartz http://www.poweroftheschwartz.com | 4/1/2009 1:19:48 PM
Thanks for following up, Ed. This is a huuuuuge help to your customers and partners.
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Jens Polster http://www.DomBlog.de | 4/1/2009 1:19:50 PM
Thanks, this is great news. I bet Paul will like it, too...
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Gregory Engels http://inotes.de | 4/1/2009 1:20:46 PM
Wow, i still cannot believe it.
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Rob McDonagh http://www.CaptainOblivious.com | 4/1/2009 1:21:20 PM
*Applause*
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moacyr (moadoors) | 4/1/2009 1:22:17 PM
thanks, ed - its a good notice
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Dave T | 4/1/2009 1:24:06 PM
Seems like an elegant solution...
Better than the little post-it pad and my homemade cheat-sheet readme.txt I have to put in the install folders (I DL mostly everything these days, I know that doesn't help with the CDs)
Good news, thanks !!!
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Keith Taylor | 4/1/2009 1:26:57 PM
MUCH APPRECIATED. Now if you could only get rid of PVU's!
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Gregg Smith http://twitter.com/greggasmith | 4/1/2009 1:27:50 PM
Great example of "Just because thats the way its always been done does not mean that there is no potential for improvement"
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Kevin Pettitt http://www.lotusguru.com | 4/1/2009 1:32:31 PM
Checking off another item on the list is always a good thing. Thanks Ed!
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Jim Casale http://www.jimcasale.net | 4/1/2009 1:35:04 PM
I guess I don't need my Excel macro any more ;-)
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Darren Duke http://blog.darrenduke.net | 4/1/2009 1:41:22 PM
If this is not a joke then "THANK YOU".
Or isn't it happening until R10? ;)
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Darren Duke http://blog.darrenduke.net | 4/1/2009 1:42:49 PM
@10, oh and give a Quickr Extranet Express edition....like Domino Utility Express.
I know, this isn't Ed's product.....but he seems to have some power now.
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Jerry Carter | 4/1/2009 1:43:29 PM
Wow - thanks, Ed! No joke, a clip of He-Man saying "I have the power!" just ran through my head. Is this a sign of more IBM website improvements to come?
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Perry Hiltz http://www.dominodiversions.com | 4/1/2009 1:53:07 PM
WOW!!! I won't have to do that on my own any more.
Thanks Ed.
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Julian Woodward http://blog.woowar.com | 4/1/2009 1:59:15 PM
Hurrah! Thanks Ed.
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Michael Kobrowski | 4/1/2009 2:25:11 PM
I am not a religious person, but I thought
Hallelujah!
Would be the right response to this.
Now that this is going to be checked off the to do list Ed, whats next? Fixing the very restrictive licensing? :)
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Irv Schor | 4/1/2009 2:58:18 PM
OMG!
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Gavin Bollard http://dominogavin.blogspot.com | 4/1/2009 3:31:31 PM
Thanks Ed,
I thought it would never happen.
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Urs Meli | 4/1/2009 3:33:24 PM
Great news.
But why not put the part number first?
c1sp4en_lotus_notes_85_win32_en ?
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Ed Brill http://www.edbrill.com | 4/1/2009 3:34:28 PM
@22 that's an option... the reason I blogged this today is that we're meeting tomorrow to make some decisions :-)
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Hans Bornich | 4/1/2009 3:45:45 PM
Thank you!! I've been hating those filenames for too long :-)
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Jesper Clausen http://www.notesadmin.dk | 4/1/2009 4:15:11 PM
Great news Ed...
BTW. While you are looking at it - Could you please have a look at the product-families/platforms too. I would like to have ONE 'Windows' rather than 21 (!!!) or ONE 'AIX' rather than five.
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Ed Brill http://www.edbrill.com | 4/1/2009 4:18:06 PM
@25 yes, we're looking at that.
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Devin Olson http://www.devinolson.net | 4/1/2009 4:23:58 PM
Thank you Ed. This has been a long time coming. I'm really glad you have titled this windmill. (I know that was a lousy metaphor, but I can't think of anything else at the moment).
Seriously, thank you.
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Mike Brown http://www.browniesblog.com | 4/1/2009 4:41:42 PM
@26 (and 25)
Good to hear that you'll be looking into the whole product-families and platforms thing, Ed. It's a bit of mess at the moment.
E.g., check out what you have to go through to download the Ubuntu installer for Notes 8.5 { Link } from Passport. It's almost like they've gone out of their way to *hide* this particular download.
Cheers,
- Mike
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Michelangelo Gambacorta http://www.amiura.com | 4/1/2009 6:42:56 PM
BTW. While you are looking at it please check to see if it is possible to fix the bug in download manager ... it aborts downloads soon after they start. It has to do with foreign settings (non US) of Windows/Java ...
I have to use http since that bug is around!
I sent question to support some time ago, but there was no workaround.
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John | 4/1/2009 6:58:10 PM
That's absolutely fantastic! Those filenames drive me crazy every time.
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Sean Burgess http://www.phigsaidwhat.com/ | 4/1/2009 7:07:36 PM
Some where in Belfast, there is a wee irishman who has a small, but perfectly formed smile that he can't get off his face thanks to this posting.
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Oliver Regelmann http://n-komm.de/blog | 4/1/2009 7:11:00 PM
Great, but please don't put the part name first. This would probably break sorting by type and make it harder to find specific files within a folder.
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JYR http://jyriver.blogspot.com/ | 4/1/2009 7:37:11 PM
Great news! but like @32, please don't put the part name first.
JYR
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Keith Brooks http://www.vanessabrooks.com | 4/1/2009 8:01:25 PM
no name first and please make sure someone sorts out the sametime 802 connect clients that are listed 2-3 times with the exact same reference but different part #.
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Nelson Morris | 4/1/2009 8:52:01 PM
My god that's just too logical. What's next? LSX toolkit being released? I don't think I can stand any more good news.
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Mike Johnston | 4/1/2009 9:31:43 PM
Welcome to 1994 :)
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Tripp Black http://www.mindwatering.com | 4/1/2009 9:41:17 PM
Oh, no more notepad.txt file to map the part numbers to their real names. bummer. :-)
Yes, i'd like the name first for sorting after download.
Thanks!
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Mike Johnston | 4/1/2009 9:49:55 PM
Here's an idea.. As the IBM part numbers are really only used for internal IBM consumption, why not get rid of them for your customers? Instead, IBM can keep track of the full_file_name with a part number reference internally.
IBM is soooo backwards.. Customers first..
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Bill Geimer | 4/1/2009 10:07:33 PM
Thanks. I downloaded two versions of code from Passport today. By the time the downloads were done, plus two sametime sessions, a phone call and some mail, I had to log back onto passport and search again to figure out what directory which file belong in.
This will help a lot.
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Nathan T. Freeman http://nathan.lotus911.com | 4/1/2009 10:32:36 PM
@38, if all the identifying information comes first, why do you care whether the IBM part number is in the file? Does that hurt you some how?
If I download a public installer from other sites, it typically has a version number in it. That doesn't affect me.
Congrats on affecting some change for the good, Ed. I have to say that in the last 72 hours, I've seen a lot of steering towards the good from Big Blue.
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Stein Sebak | 4/2/2009 1:27:48 AM
Great news - consider removing 'ibm_lotus_' to from the file name - we know that!
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Ninke Westra http://woonjas.linuxnerd.org | 4/2/2009 3:54:20 AM
Great news Ed :-)
@22 preferably not. when I look for something in my download directory I don't use the partnumber.
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Theo Heselmans http://blog.xceed.be | 4/2/2009 4:53:31 AM
You're the man. Tx.
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Michael Kobrowski | 4/2/2009 7:39:10 AM
Ok, lets see:
ibm_lotus_notes85_win_eng_C1SP4EN.exe
For the notes client, you have to add what type it is, right?
lotus_notes85_full_win_eng_XXXXXXX.exe
lotus_notes85_basic_win_eng_XXXXXXX.exe
lotus_notes85_admin_win_eng_XXXXXXX.exe
We can for sure drop the ibm from the file name -no offense, really, but in case someone downloads a bunch of files from IBM at least have the software product family in front with lotus_
I agree, I don't mind having the old relic parts number at the end of the file name - please, not in front!
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Ed Brill http://www.edbrill.com | 4/2/2009 7:46:13 AM
@38 part numbers are not just internally relevant. It's a unique identifier just like the model number on your phone refrigerator. There's no harm in keeping them -- this is just a download package after all -- and some people do in fact search on the part number (since it corresponds to a channel announcement etc.).
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John wylie http://jwylie.blogspot.com/ | 4/2/2009 7:46:15 AM
This is good news. Like some others I usually create a files.txt to match file names to actual product.
As for having "ibm_lotus" in the filename - this is useful where you may be downloading a Tivoli product for example - although the "ibm" bit would likely be superfluous.
Otherwise I'd like to say that @44 Raman is a genius !
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Andy Brunner http://ABData.CH | 4/2/2009 8:08:52 AM
THANK YOU !!!
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Gerald Mengisen | 4/2/2009 8:41:30 AM
Wahoo!
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Kevin Mort http://www.theglobalmind.com | 4/2/2009 9:03:13 AM
Nice. The example: ibm_lotus_notes85_win_eng_C1SP4EN.exe
is nearly exactly how I name them myself after download.
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sean cull http://seancull.co.uk | 4/2/2009 12:47:50 PM
fantastic news
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Janet Crenshaw (no longer with IBM) | 4/2/2009 2:04:42 PM
Finally! That's wonderful, Ed. I know I'm not the only one who had to rename every one after download (and even then, found some I had downloaded and not renamed... and had to start the install process just to find out what it was). Glad to see this.
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John Foldager http://www.izone.dk | 4/2/2009 2:21:36 PM
Could you please put in the bit too? 32 / 64 / (128 in the future), and also make it as logical as possible when a bunch of downloads are sorted, like the following:
ibm_lotus_8.5.0_client_basic_win32_en-us_CXXX9EN.exe
ibm_lotus_8.5.0_client_standard_win32_en-us_CXXX9EN.exe
ibm_lotus_8.5.0_client_all_win32_en-us_CXXX9EN.exe
ibm_lotus_8.5.0_client_standard_linux32_en-us_CXXX9EN.tar
ibm_lotus_8.5.0_client_standard_linux64_en-us_CXXX9EN.tar
ibm_lotus_8.5.0_client_standard_macos64_en-us_CXXX9EN.tar
ibm_lotus_8.5.0_client_sametime_win32_en-us_CXXX9EN.tar
ibm_lotus_8.5.0_server_win32_en-us_CXXX9EN.exe
ibm_lotus_8.5.0_server_i64_v5r4m0_en-us_CXXX9EN.exe
Also, could you pleeeeease make the download for "IBM i" (AS/400) server into at least two packages; one .exe and a savefile to restore directly using DVD on i5/OS -- I really hate when IBM thinks every customer has at least 1 Windows machine inhouse. Thanks! :o)
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Ed Brill http://www.edbrill.com | 4/2/2009 2:48:12 PM
The first "test case" is live:
IBM Lotus Notes and Domino 8.5 Release Notes English ibm_lotus_notes85_basic_win_eng_C1SP2EN.exe (C1W34EN)
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Volker Weber http://vowe.net | 4/2/2009 3:18:22 PM
C1SP2EN.exe (C1W34EN)?
Shouldn't this be either C1SP2EN.exe (C1SP2EN) or C1W34EN.exe (C1W34EN)?
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Jeff Picco | 4/2/2009 4:49:32 PM
One less thing to complain about when I download from IBM :-)
Thanks Ed. This is huge!!!
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Fr@nk | 4/3/2009 2:20:39 AM
Microsoft fixed also their downloads and made "Sharepoint Designer" now a free download....
{ Link }
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Albert Buendia http://www.slug.es | 4/3/2009 3:07:45 AM
Great news. Like @25 I would like to see an "Unified IBM Passport Advantage". We are also customers of Cognos BI and I still can't see anything about this product in our PA account. Thank you very much. Making customers and BP happy ! Regards.
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Vincent | 4/3/2009 10:51:22 AM
My boss asked me why I am crying at the office when reading this blog.
I told him they are the tears of joy. He walked away with a rare face.
PS. I am still "crying" for another 37 seconds.
Thank you.
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Ken Howell | 4/3/2009 10:09:43 PM
Fantastic!
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Nick Radov http://www.axolotl.com/ | 4/6/2009 2:20:43 AM
The worst part of the current Partnerworld download site is that it doesn't allow browsing through a drill-down hierarchy. Instead we have to search for everything, which is very slow and causes problems when you don't know exactly the string or category to search for.
For an example of how a browse downloads site can work well, take a look at MSDN. You just have to select a category and then you instantly see a list of all available products and versions. IBM could do something similar, categorized first by software brand and then by product and version.
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Tinus Riyanto | 4/14/2009 9:51:10 PM
Ed, if this do comes true when is it going to be implemented ? Would it be only for future release or also apply to whatever files currently there ?
Does this apply to files downloaded from customer's Passport Advantage too ?
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Ed Brill http://www.edbrill.com | 4/15/2009 11:38:42 AM
We've already implemented it for Notes/Domino 8.5 downloads, and yes for partners as well.
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Tinus Riyanto | 4/16/2009 2:03:32 AM
Well, it might be misunderstading on my part ...
Last week our client downloaded Notes/Domino 7.0.4 using their Passport Advatage account (not partners of course) and the resulting filename still show up as part number only. I understand these files came after the above changes so I expect the filename to be more readable.
Good thing I told them to save the download list table containing the files description to a text file.
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Ben Rose http://www.jaffacake.net | 4/16/2009 2:21:23 AM
@63 "We've already implemented it for Notes/Domino 8.5 downloads, and yes for partners as well."
I see no mention of 7.0.4



Thanks Ed, but you will really annoy people if it is a joke.