Interesting times...
Other evidence is coming directly, and loudly, from Microsoft, which is offering planning advice that has never been clearer.Never underestimate Microsoft's willingness to criticize current versions of its products in an attempt to convince you to move to new ones...funny that they're never this honest when those products first ship. Too bad it takes them years to come clean. Meanwhile, all those Microsoft solution providers trying to sell Exchange 2007 deployments and migrations....well, I guess you'll just have to wait. No need to make any money right now, right?
At TechEd, keynote presenter Bill Veghte, senior vice president for the Windows business, said companies testing Vista should stop and move to testing Windows 7. The same advice was repeated for users who have not yet moved to Exchange 2007; they were told to skip it and wait for 2010.
The advice is a marked change from Microsoft's typical straddling act in which users are rarely publicly encouraged to abandon one upgrade plan for the impending release of the new version of a product.
"[Microsoft] is being brutally honest," Top Dog's Hobert says.
Link: Network World: Microsoft's software pipeline set to burst > (Thanks, Don)
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Charles Robinson http://www.cubert.net | 5/15/2009 12:27:24 PM
You should have pulled out this gem:
"We are going to have to carefully plan out the upgrade because we don't have any budget to get another machine, which we would need," he says.
:-)
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Darren http://www.dadams.co.uk | 5/15/2009 2:02:52 PM
I think to stop testing Vista is a good suggestion. But rather than testing Windows 7 I'd suggest testing Ubuntu instead. The French Police did and saved millions.
"...Exchange 2010 is under the microscope because users won't have a migration option and will be forced to do more difficult upgrades when moving from Exchange 2007" - let the article speak for itself.
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Mike Robinson http://www.invcs.com | 5/15/2009 3:16:54 PM
All I say is WOW. I'm filing this along with the Exchange Service Pack that broke every version of Exchange 5.5 for a day...Pretty amazing.
The article is fairly light though. So what are the reasons they go public with this? Stability, performance? I'm sure the usual MS folks that peek at this blog will chime in to clean up shortly...
This is a good one for a friday afternoon.
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Andrew Pollack http://www.thenorth.com | 5/15/2009 9:24:21 PM
I get it about Vista vs. Windows 7 -- everything I've seen or tried says it's likely to be a solid product that users enjoy and will be adopted fairly rapidly.
I don't get how that ties to Exchange 2007. The changes from Vista to Windows 7 are not cosmetic - they're real serious user interface improvements and repairs. They are not, however, significant architecturally. There's nothing about the difference that should impact the exchange server. The outlook client -- yes, definitely they'll need to update it to take advantage,but the server? Nothing to do with it.
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Shay | 5/16/2009 1:26:40 AM
What ever we say, still more comapnies are talking/thinking about moving in to Exchange/outlook ,even in this time of recession ! As a domino/lotus support engineer i cant remember how many times I have encountered queries from notes users(those who have used outlook atlesat once) like "i need this similar to outlook".
There any many notes domino based companies in India,still using domino/notes version 5/6/..Some of them are thinking to migrate in to Exchange 2007..If IBM is not able to convince them to move to LD 8.5, these compnies are going to become permanant exchange accounts...
Nobody will question the credibility of Domino serevr , but its the client that makes the whole story different..Most of the notes using people are not yet migrated in to the much pretty LN 8.5.The image of notes in their mind is still going around the ugly versions(as some of them asserts) 5/6/7....
All these migrating stories really worries those people who have chosen LD as a career...
Hope IBM will overcome all these issues with contious improvement in this product :)
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Steven Kennett | 5/16/2009 4:24:08 AM
@6 I agree, I was saying that on another thread.
The thing is many companies are more interested in the email side of things these days as email is a critical business application and the user experience. So if you are realistically going to compare Notes to Outook, you have to sell Notes as an EMAIL system and not just a collaboration tool.
You need to look more closely at companies, see what they do and say to them this is the email system for you AND if you wanted to in the future it can also do this !
I don't think Notes can be compared like for like until IBM realise and sell Lotus Notes as an Email system, then maybe you will win more market share.
Of course Ed you can prove me wrong and say what percentage of companies install Lotus Notes just for email rather than for email and databases etc.
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Ed Brill http://www.edbrill.com | 5/16/2009 12:20:10 PM
@5 Andrew, they are two separate thoughts. Read the whole article....
@6 So on the one hand, it's not the product anymore, but it's still the product?
@7 The market for e-mail products is highly commoditized... It seems like it would be even more of a slugfest than it already is to try to lead with that aspect of the product.
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Steven Kennett | 5/16/2009 12:59:53 PM
@8 I understand what you are saying but I feel that Exchange/Outlook is seen as an Email system and Domino/Lotus Notes is seen as Application and Email software (which it is) and so when companies look just for email the first option meets that criteria perfectly.
You will always be in MS' shadow for Email because as I said Lotus Notes is not marketed the same way so I don't see the point in trying to compare the products.
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Nazeer Aval | 5/24/2009 7:28:57 AM
@8..I agree. However, note that we have the offerings to sell Notes, only for mail. Its just a matter of educating customers at that point in competition. No value if we project as mail only.
THAT is THE MOST beautiful thing I've seen today ... 'cept my GF!!!