Updated Lotus Notes "Hannover" screenshots
January 23 2006
The general session isn't over yet, but
my battery almost is. Thus, I'm posting the last big link of the
morning -- Updated screen shots from Lotus Notes "Hannover".
This code is being demonstrated live in a couple of minutes.
For two
more updated "Hannover" screen shots, click here
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Ed Brill www.edbrill.com | 1/23/2006 9:35:12 AM
Yes, that's the point! Being demonstrated live in just a few moments.
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Egor Margineanu http://www.egmar.ro/ | 1/23/2006 9:39:05 AM
WOW. That's cool. When will be beta available?
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Ken Porter | 1/23/2006 9:39:55 AM
Ed, you should be using an iBook; my battery runs for ever. :-)
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Ed Brill www.edbrill.com | 1/23/2006 9:42:04 AM
@3 beta - "later in 2006"
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Simon Barratt http://apps.fmc.com/blog.nsf | 1/23/2006 9:47:58 AM
They look great! Some real eye candy at last!
Shame I'm going to miss it!
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Steve Castledine http://www.dominoblog.com | 1/23/2006 10:13:15 AM
So what I can gather the server side of this will be the standard domino server albeit with code enhancements/new version. Am I correct or are additional server side installs required?
Client side - an installation that is as easy as today - without additional requirements?
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Ben Rose http://www.jaffacake.net | 1/23/2006 10:32:50 AM
Ah the smarticons, menu and status bar are back then...looks like Notes now :)
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Richard Smith http:www.basic.co.uk | 1/23/2006 10:38:20 AM
As I've said to many people... your site Ed is one of, if not THE first place to come to get information!
Massive Qudos (spelling?) to Lotus, to see that things are there, working, instead of screens! I like the "oh and it's available now" comments. Nice to see the gloves are off ;-)
Sametime - glorious, cant wait till the beta. LS2006 started well me thinks.
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Richard Smith http:www.basic.co.uk | 1/23/2006 10:40:26 AM
@9, cant wait till Hannover beta, I mean. When is Sametime 7.5 out? Maybe my ears stopped working in the excitment. :-)
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Diego Ogniben | 1/23/2006 10:54:11 AM
@5 "later in 2006" : first half?
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skip | 1/23/2006 10:57:20 AM
@9 & 10 - Richard why does your link to your website point to Microsoft?
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MarvinK | 1/23/2006 11:04:25 AM
@11 - When companies don't specify a quarter, it means they're hoping to get it out before xmas. ;)
Definitely looks like a massive client first-impression improvement, which IS a big deal. I hope the address book is dramatically improved.. its one of the worst problems with the PIM portion of the client.
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Richard Smith http://www.basic.co.uk | 1/23/2006 11:21:00 AM
@12:
Sorry, it doesnt point to MS, however, I made a typo... I omitted the // or something. Maybe its how the URL gets converted.
It should be { Link }
Sorry. Clearly too much excitement, my hands are shaking and I cant spell anymore. lol. Perhaps Ed could change it???
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Ed Brill www.edbrill.com | 1/23/2006 12:10:34 PM
@7 Steve - Yes. Standard Domino server. There will be options to add portal and Workplace-related components, but they will be additive in the Domino architecture.
@10 Sametime 7.5 -- "mid-2006".
@11 -- "later in 2006". ;)
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Simon Barratt http://apps.fmc.com/blog.nsf | 1/23/2006 1:38:15 PM
Ed, the updates are coming way too slow! Anyone would think you stopped to have lunch or something!!! ;-)
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Jon Johnston http://bingo.cbsol.com | 1/23/2006 4:30:39 PM
Thanks for posting this, Ed.
Can you elaborate on when we'll have a Mac 7 client, please? (I want an update!)
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Ed Brill www.edbrill.com | 1/23/2006 4:56:32 PM
@17 sorry, thought that was clear in other postings.
Notes for Mac at 7.0.2 (midyear) -- including Mac/Intel (native binary), and including DWA Mac support (firefox).
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Mark Hughes | 1/23/2006 8:41:24 PM
Curious is that 1024 x 768? or a higher resolution?
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Ed Brill www.edbrill.com | 1/23/2006 9:46:52 PM
They may have started out that way, but I reduced them to make the page loads faster.
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Stuart McIntyre http://macsfacts.blogspot.com | 1/23/2006 11:20:29 PM
Looks great, Ed, seems like IBM have finally seen the light on the importance of GUI design - it does look both intuitive to use and very very attractive.
Given the eternally long product cycles of Outlook, it seems churlish to criticise the release date of Hannover, but I so wish it was sooner - part of the problem of publicising this kind of detail so early I guess.
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Mike Brown | 1/24/2006 12:42:51 AM
Those screenshots look really great, Ed! Can we get full size versions of them posted anywhere? They're a little fuzzy at the moment because they've been shrunk.
Cheers,
- Mike
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Nathan T. Freeman | 1/24/2006 1:05:36 AM
Ed, the earlier Hannover screenies got me excited. This is Lookout with rounded corners, man. I hate to take the wind out of your sails, but this is a step back from the stuff we saw months ago.
I guess we can be excited that there's some way to do useful multi-line formatting in a view. Otherwise, this looks like a very minor update.
Just goes to show that a little rounding and some shading do a great job of making something incremental look radical.
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Ben Rose http://www.jaffacake.net | 1/24/2006 1:20:04 AM
@23 - I do get your point. The big difference between these screen shots and the ones we saw a few months back is that these screenshots are more usable.
On the original shots ( { Link } ), there were no smarticons and there were lots of nice features like unread count on the DB tabs.
This is still massively improved, but it is more of the brush up you implied it to be. I dread to see what the 'right click' menu looks like.
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Nathan T. Freeman | 1/24/2006 1:57:44 AM
@24, Since I personally think that SmartIcons (and toolbars in general) contribute significantly to lowering the IQ of end users, I'm happy to see them gone. :-)
Seriously, I think the persistent toolbars are a patchwork that comes from old, bad UI premises. Even as I look at the toolbar in N7, I see that if I happen to slightly miss the PRINT icon, I can accidentally click the CUT icon, which, in the case of my email, will, instead of printing the selected mail, delete it. Nice. And it's been like this since version 3, because I specifically remember some training classes where this happened to my users.
Funny that you should mention right-click... a properly designed right-click is exactly what should replace those loathsome toolbars. And I'm sure you're aware that the attempted implementation in Notes 7 is an unmitigated disaster.
I guess, this being Lotusphere week, I'm going to be the contrarian voice through Friday. :-)
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Ben Rose http://www.jaffacake.net | 1/24/2006 2:15:52 AM
@25 - I've seen your right-click views before and agree as much now as I did then.
Then again, I use "copy selected as table" all the time in my inbox ;O)
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Peter Wilson | 1/24/2006 5:20:21 AM
Thanks Ed for the screen shots. As others have said, FINALLLLY IBM has focused on the GUI first and it's importance to users, managers and ultimately ...$$.
Don't forget basics like a decent Undo feature too!
Pete
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Thilo Hamberger | 1/24/2006 5:39:24 AM
Did nobody realize the bookmark bar is gone?
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Thilo Hamberger | 1/24/2006 5:41:38 AM
Ooops, I think the launch button does its job now.
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Ed Brill www.edbrill.com | 1/24/2006 6:16:53 AM
Jeff Eisen made a deliberate point during the keynote of showing a streamlined right click menu. Perhaps he (or someone from dev) will chime in with more thoughts.
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Jeff Eisen | 1/24/2006 9:11:44 AM
At your service Ed.
Please don't be disappointed and read too much into things you saw months ago that you don't see now.
The big difference is that what you saw months ago were pictures put together by our UI designer folks. What you saw yesterday at the opening general session and throughout the day was real working code. The fact is that a lot of the stuff in the UI design (unread counts etc) we just haven't gotten to in the implementation yet -- patience...
As far as the right click button, we are still working on what goes on it "out of the box". The cool thing now, though -- and the point that I was trying to make yesterday -- is that you can extend it at the platform level, not just one app at a time (as you can do now with the functionality added in Notes 7).
This for me personally is HUGE! No more calls with business partners frustrated that they have no easy way to add a right click on a person's name without modifying a series of templates to do something simple like display their phone number.
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Mark Hughes | 1/24/2006 12:41:09 PM
@20 just curious how much screen realestate is needed, we still have some people running 800 x 600(alot of scrolling) but most are at 1024 x 768.
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Nathan T. Freeman | 1/25/2006 2:27:14 AM
@31, Hope you come back here, Jeff. As I wrote in my initial request/specification back in the ND6 beta forum years ago, it is at least as important to be able to TAKE THINGS AWAY from that menu. The current implementation in N7 mail is terrible precisely because there are now about 40 entries in the base context menu -- to much "extending" and not enough "cleaning."
That being said, I am quite excited myself about the new UI capabilities. The implications of what I can see on that screen are a) I'll be able to build view columns that include some kind of multi-line separator, so I can show block information and still retain formatting controls; b) simple techniques for rounded corners on frames, embedded objects and probably tables. That's a nice stylized plus; c) the top action bar that spans what is probably two frames (unless you did this with some embedded view/editor combo in a form, which is probably a really good approach now that I type it) must have some improved controls for target frame control of an action -- because when I did the original Lookout mockup that kicked-off OpenNTF, I had a lot of trouble getting an outside-frame action to trigger behavior in a sibling frame.
It's great to see "All Messages" up front on the folder selection pane. Everytime I talk to someone coming from Outlook, they go gaga over that capability.
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Roger J | 1/25/2006 4:28:25 PM
Great!
But where are the scrollbars in this screenshot?
Just a "simple" thing that the window scrollbars should be proportional would make the GUI look so much more modern!
Oh! Now I see proportional scrollbars here { Link } Great!



Cool. Ed, are those screenshots real??