CONSULTANT | RAINMAKER | COLLABORATION & INTEGRATION EXPERThttp://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/en-usWed, 1 Feb 2012 03:56:19 PM -0500 Wed, 1 Feb 2012 03:56:19 PM -0500 Brendan Long Why does the Domino community have a "Domino or nothing" mentaility?
As a lazy geek who doesn't put enough time into researching alternative technologies, it was always comforting to know that IBM thought enough of their platform to build things like quickr, sametime etc on that platform. Now, I'm left with the nagging suspicion that the hours I'm currently putting into improving my xpages knowledge might be wasted on something that smarter, better, more knowledgeable developers at IBM wouldn't touch with a barge pole.

The community shouldn't have a "Domino or nothing" mentality, but it would be comforting if IBM didn't seem to have an "Anything but Domino" mentality, as Darren puts it.

That said, if Traveler (which is great), or any other IBM product for that matter, is as easy to install and administer as Domino and I never have to look under the covers at the underlying technology, I'll forgive them and I'll be happy to stay blissfully ignorant of things like Derby.]]>
As a lazy geek who doesn't put enough time into researching alternative technologies, it was always comforting to know that IBM thought enough of their platform to build things like quickr, sametime etc on that platform. Now, I'm left with the nagging suspicion that the hours I'm currently putting into improving my xpages knowledge might be wasted on something that smarter, better, more knowledgeable developers at IBM wouldn't touch with a barge pole.

The community shouldn't have a "Domino or nothing" mentality, but it would be comforting if IBM didn't seem to have an "Anything but Domino" mentality, as Darren puts it.

That said, if Traveler (which is great), or any other IBM product for that matter, is as easy to install and administer as Domino and I never have to look under the covers at the underlying technology, I'll forgive them and I'll be happy to stay blissfully ignorant of things like Derby.]]> http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/why-does-the-domino-community-have-a-domino-or-nothing-mentaility?opendocument&comments#02012012035619PMPSCTQR.htm Wed, 1 Feb 2012 03:48:05 PM -0500 Chris Whisonant Why does the Domino community have a "Domino or nothing" mentaility?
So Derby was chosen initially, OK. I believe it's what the backend was when Traveler was ported from the old Workplace product. It works ok. But the long-term strategy from IBM for Traveler HA is to get rid of the Derby backend and require DB2 as the backend for HA. This is because Domino NSF clustering will not be up to the task of ensuring that the state database is atomically in sync due to ActiveSync. If an ActiveSync device hits a version of the db (i.e. on a Domino clustermate) that is even milliseconds different from the last sync time, then a full re-sync is done. I have a good many thoughts on this, but mostly that this isn't going to be beneficial for SMB. Especially if you want to have HA for that DB2 server.]]>
So Derby was chosen initially, OK. I believe it's what the backend was when Traveler was ported from the old Workplace product. It works ok. But the long-term strategy from IBM for Traveler HA is to get rid of the Derby backend and require DB2 as the backend for HA. This is because Domino NSF clustering will not be up to the task of ensuring that the state database is atomically in sync due to ActiveSync. If an ActiveSync device hits a version of the db (i.e. on a Domino clustermate) that is even milliseconds different from the last sync time, then a full re-sync is done. I have a good many thoughts on this, but mostly that this isn't going to be beneficial for SMB. Especially if you want to have HA for that DB2 server.]]> http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/why-does-the-domino-community-have-a-domino-or-nothing-mentaility?opendocument&comments#02012012034805PMPSCTKL.htm Wed, 1 Feb 2012 07:38:43 AM -0500 Darren Duke Why does the Domino community have a "Domino or nothing" mentaility?
Why does IBM have an "Anything BUT Domino mentality?"

I'm all for saying Domino is not good for everything, but if the NSF is not up to being the back-end of Traveler, then fix the fricken issue in the NSF for the benefit of all (and maybe even add some mongo style query language). But no, IBM immediately jump to something even more esoteric than even Domino because this is probable a lab research project and all they know is Java and RDBMS (this is complete conjecture on my part by the way). And don't me started on backup strategies for Derby.....

In the land of unintended consequences IBM get bitten trying to provide HA and failover on a platform where to enable HA on Domino it is nothing more than a picklist to set up. Trees apparently do a good job of hiding woods.]]>
Why does IBM have an "Anything BUT Domino mentality?"

I'm all for saying Domino is not good for everything, but if the NSF is not up to being the back-end of Traveler, then fix the fricken issue in the NSF for the benefit of all (and maybe even add some mongo style query language). But no, IBM immediately jump to something even more esoteric than even Domino because this is probable a lab research project and all they know is Java and RDBMS (this is complete conjecture on my part by the way). And don't me started on backup strategies for Derby.....

In the land of unintended consequences IBM get bitten trying to provide HA and failover on a platform where to enable HA on Domino it is nothing more than a picklist to set up. Trees apparently do a good job of hiding woods.]]> http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/why-does-the-domino-community-have-a-domino-or-nothing-mentaility?opendocument&comments#01022012073843PSCHZR.htm Tue, 31 Jan 2012 02:15:09 PM -0500 Erik Brooks Why does the Domino community have a "Domino or nothing" mentaility?
Customer TCO will go up, reliability goes down, and it is likely more expensive for IBM to maintain.

My first impression is that it's a really bone-headed move on IBM's part. But there may be a very good technical reason for it, hence why I asked. We'll see what IBM says (if anything.)]]>
Customer TCO will go up, reliability goes down, and it is likely more expensive for IBM to maintain.

My first impression is that it's a really bone-headed move on IBM's part. But there may be a very good technical reason for it, hence why I asked. We'll see what IBM says (if anything.)]]> http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/why-does-the-domino-community-have-a-domino-or-nothing-mentaility?opendocument&comments#01312012021509PMPSCRRJ.htm Tue, 31 Jan 2012 01:21:32 PM -0500 Nathan T. Freeman Why does the Domino community have a "Domino or nothing" mentaility?
Because building the solution on non-Domino 1) increases TCO for the customer; and 2) means that infrastructural and testing resources at IBM are further fragmented.

Item 1 means customer interest is reduced (unless it's expensive enough to get the "strategic" label, and then the conversation can elevate to the top.) Item 2 means that IBM reliable rate of innovation is slower.

If Traveler had used NSF for storage, the clustering support would have taken 15 minutes and probably could be implemented entirely by partners and customers. But because it uses Derby, it now takes an unknown amount of time and will be a major version release and probably take an additional two points releases to stabilize.]]>
Because building the solution on non-Domino 1) increases TCO for the customer; and 2) means that infrastructural and testing resources at IBM are further fragmented.

Item 1 means customer interest is reduced (unless it's expensive enough to get the "strategic" label, and then the conversation can elevate to the top.) Item 2 means that IBM reliable rate of innovation is slower.

If Traveler had used NSF for storage, the clustering support would have taken 15 minutes and probably could be implemented entirely by partners and customers. But because it uses Derby, it now takes an unknown amount of time and will be a major version release and probably take an additional two points releases to stabilize.]]> http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/why-does-the-domino-community-have-a-domino-or-nothing-mentaility?opendocument&comments#01312012012132PMPSCQPZ.htm Tue, 31 Jan 2012 12:13:38 PM -0500 Henning Heinz Why does the Domino community have a "Domino or nothing" mentaility?
I can understand that Domino won't scale to DB/2 or Oracle or even MS SQL Server but DERBY !?

Maybe the use case isn't well suited for a NoSQL database. I would have bought this until I saw a MongoDb instance in action last week at a LUG (with the L for Linux). The db had one million records and (it was the 64Bit version) and performed amazingly well. And the queries looked quite similar to SQL. Maybe there are many points where nsf beats MongoDb. I don't know.

Probably Traveler started with a SQL backend and IBM hasn't changed it just because it worked. Again accepted but now that clustering is required I can hardly understand why nsf isn't good enough. Maybe it would help if nsf had a generic jdbc interface.

It is how it is. I have no problems with using Derby for Traveler. But although I might repeat myself. If you can't use Domino to handle Domino data then don't be surprised if you customers won't either.

No big problem for PSC. If I understand correctly you have experts in all areas.]]>
I can understand that Domino won't scale to DB/2 or Oracle or even MS SQL Server but DERBY !?

Maybe the use case isn't well suited for a NoSQL database. I would have bought this until I saw a MongoDb instance in action last week at a LUG (with the L for Linux). The db had one million records and (it was the 64Bit version) and performed amazingly well. And the queries looked quite similar to SQL. Maybe there are many points where nsf beats MongoDb. I don't know.

Probably Traveler started with a SQL backend and IBM hasn't changed it just because it worked. Again accepted but now that clustering is required I can hardly understand why nsf isn't good enough. Maybe it would help if nsf had a generic jdbc interface.

It is how it is. I have no problems with using Derby for Traveler. But although I might repeat myself. If you can't use Domino to handle Domino data then don't be surprised if you customers won't either.

No big problem for PSC. If I understand correctly you have experts in all areas.]]> http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/why-does-the-domino-community-have-a-domino-or-nothing-mentaility?opendocument&comments#31.01.2012121338PSCPDK.htm Tue, 31 Jan 2012 11:15:37 AM -0500 David Hablewitz Why does the Domino community have a "Domino or nothing" mentaility?
Personally, I think the diversity is an advantage. It is harder to dismiss a suite of software than a single product.

But don't laud your MS team too much. They are accustomed to the pain of having to install all kinds of modules, add-ons, plugins and apps to do what the Lotus team does in one place.]]>
Personally, I think the diversity is an advantage. It is harder to dismiss a suite of software than a single product.

But don't laud your MS team too much. They are accustomed to the pain of having to install all kinds of modules, add-ons, plugins and apps to do what the Lotus team does in one place.]]> http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/why-does-the-domino-community-have-a-domino-or-nothing-mentaility?opendocument&comments#01312012111537AMPSCN9B.htm Tue, 31 Jan 2012 10:15:07 AM -0500 Flemming Riis Why does the Domino community have a "Domino or nothing" mentaility?
dedication is fine, but at some point it just gets to risky , betting your skills / job / business on a horse you have no control over is not very sane.

If vendor kills / changes producy xyz you have lost , if you are that dedicated to one product or vendor you need to go work there instead.]]>
dedication is fine, but at some point it just gets to risky , betting your skills / job / business on a horse you have no control over is not very sane.

If vendor kills / changes producy xyz you have lost , if you are that dedicated to one product or vendor you need to go work there instead.]]> http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/why-does-the-domino-community-have-a-domino-or-nothing-mentaility?opendocument&comments#31-01-2012101507PSCM3H.htm Sat, 28 Jan 2012 04:36:32 AM -0500 Finn L Knudsen My thoughts on the Lotusphere2012 announcements around Lotus Symphony and Apache OpenOffice.org
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I agree that API (and documentation thereof) for the new product stack is very important.

And that OpenOffice has to come with a Typelib file so early binding and code completion of object methods or properties is possible.]]>
Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

I agree that API (and documentation thereof) for the new product stack is very important.

And that OpenOffice has to come with a Typelib file so early binding and code completion of object methods or properties is possible.]]> http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/my-thoughts-on-the-lotusphere2012-announcements-around-lotus-symphony-and-apache-openoffice.org?opendocument&comments#28-01-2012043632PSCEFV.htm Wed, 25 Jan 2012 08:55:25 AM -0500 John Head My thoughts on the Lotusphere2012 announcements around Lotus Symphony and Apache OpenOffice.org
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Which is basically a hack that allows you to automate the UNO Java API that is there. My customers rejected doing this back before the Symphony LotusScript API came out. It's hard to use, poorly documented, and crashes more often than not.

If AOO wants to win over the Symphony developers from Notes, it needs a COM API I can use in any VB or LS editor with a clearly design API like the Symphony LS API, and a large amount of documentation and samples. If that does not happen, these customers will go back to using Office.]]>
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Which is basically a hack that allows you to automate the UNO Java API that is there. My customers rejected doing this back before the Symphony LotusScript API came out. It's hard to use, poorly documented, and crashes more often than not.

If AOO wants to win over the Symphony developers from Notes, it needs a COM API I can use in any VB or LS editor with a clearly design API like the Symphony LS API, and a large amount of documentation and samples. If that does not happen, these customers will go back to using Office.]]> http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/my-thoughts-on-the-lotusphere2012-announcements-around-lotus-symphony-and-apache-openoffice.org?opendocument&comments#01252012085525AMPSCKHP.htm Wed, 25 Jan 2012 06:01:09 AM -0500 Juergen Schmidt My thoughts on the Lotusphere2012 announcements around Lotus Symphony and Apache OpenOffice.org http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/my-thoughts-on-the-lotusphere2012-announcements-around-lotus-symphony-and-apache-openoffice.org?opendocument&comments#01252012060109AMPSCG4S.htm Mon, 23 Jan 2012 02:18:44 PM -0500 John D Head Lotusphere 2012 - BP107 : IBM Lotus Notes/Domino Application Development Competitive Advantage : The Social Business Edition http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/lotusphere-2012-bp107-?opendocument&comments#01232012021844PMJDHRTS.htm Mon, 23 Jan 2012 05:17:51 AM -0500 Patrick Kwinten Lotusphere 2012 - BP107 : IBM Lotus Notes/Domino Application Development Competitive Advantage : The Social Business Edition Link } website?

I would appreciate if speakers would be a bit more humble to their audience. We cannot participate to all sessions, so a copy afterwards is much appreciated.

Now we have to chase all speakers blogs???]]> Link } website?

I would appreciate if speakers would be a bit more humble to their audience. We cannot participate to all sessions, so a copy afterwards is much appreciated.

Now we have to chase all speakers blogs???]]> http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/lotusphere-2012-bp107-?opendocument&comments#01232012051751AMPSCF9Q.htm Mon, 23 Jan 2012 05:08:52 AM -0500 John Lindsay Lotuphere2012: JMP304 - Master Class: Integration in the world of Social Business http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/lotuphere2012-jmp304-master-class-integration-in-the-world-of-social-business-?opendocument&comments#01232012050852AMPSCF44.htm Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:29:59 PM -0500 Richard Lotuphere2012: JMP304 - Master Class: Integration in the world of Social Business http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/lotuphere2012-jmp304-master-class-integration-in-the-world-of-social-business-?opendocument&comments#18012012152959PSCT8D.htm Wed, 18 Jan 2012 03:28:46 PM -0500 Richard Lotuphere2012: JMP304 - Master Class: Integration in the world of Social Business
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Congratulations on 11 years with PSC. I admire and respect both you and PSC very much.]]>
Congratulations on 11 years with PSC. I admire and respect both you and PSC very much.]]> http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/11-years?opendocument&comments#12182011100010PMPSC6Q6.htm Mon, 5 Dec 2011 04:10:36 AM -0500 Kim van den Berg Why did Lotus/IBM never add webdav to Domino? Link } ) and we are currently developing a solution for IBM Connections as well (to be released in January 2012).]]> Link } ) and we are currently developing a solution for IBM Connections as well (to be released in January 2012).]]> http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/why-did-lotusibm-never-add-webdav-to-domino?opendocument&comments#05-12-2011041036PSCDXP.htm Fri, 25 Nov 2011 09:04:09 AM -0500 Dwain A Wuerfel The season of emotions http://www.johndavidhead.com/jhead/johnhead.nsf/dx/the-season-of-emotions?opendocument&comments#11252011090409AMPSCKP6.htm